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Diogene's avatar

Fair analysis of the current (early) meta. I'll add some of my thoughts alongside your analysis.

I strongly believe in the ebb and flow of the game, where a corp/runner archetype become strong, then it becomes obsolete as counter tech become more prevalent. The best example of this is the amount of Mavirus and Pinhole in each deck, going from a minimum of 2 to zero.

Shapers are an harder nut to crack. The tools are there, such as Deep Dive, Gamedragon, Madani, Knickknack and all that. But we were used to event based shaper (Kit) and this is not as good as before, since the card pool is about leveraging installed cards (especially Coalescence). I predict that Chromatophore (and maybe Pelangi) will show us a big leverage. Buzzsaw + Gamedragon + moving Chromatophore = break 80% of ices for 1 or 2 credits. But I'm biased here, because I'm a shaper fan.

With the popularity of criminal, I do not think the current way Nebula deck are build will keep strong. Cezve just tear apart the game plan of Nebula. Andrej demonstrated this well on stream.

HB is like shapers, it is harder to make it competitive. The click efficiency is there, but the agenda suite is not great. I can't wait for players like Jai and Ysengrin to show us great HB deck that will tear apart the competition.

I would finally like to point that Deep Dive has good counters, with LEO, Thule and Manegarm, outside of just sniping the card with damage. Also, surviving after a non winning Deep Dive (a Deep Dive that did not close the game) is another matter. Measured Response is great here, because the runner will usually be poor after pulling off Deep Dive. Phat (well used in AU Co decks) is fairly good, as sniping an agenda could flatline the runner.

I'm pointing this out to give hopes in this new meta.

Big thanks to the shoutout for the Bangun deck.

To show off that lessons of the past meta still stand (like you demonstrated with Esa), here is a deck that is related to Barf Thule, which could be with only pre-elevation cards :

https://netrunnerdb.com/en/decklist/dfcb81fb-1858-401b-8f79-e5ca9fd92e3c/ocean-expedition-3rd-montreal-gnk-2024-05-06

Keep on writing! Your analysis is on point (even if I contest a little bit of it) and well written. Cheers!

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Meathir's avatar

I think Shapers will be fine without Dive if it does get banned. The main problem I find with Shapers is not being able to contest early.

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