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Meathir's avatar

YsengrinSC was saying how he felt ICE was bad currently. I don't think that's entirely true, I just think all the good ICE is skewed into HB (Gatekeeper/Drafter/Bran 1.0/MIC) or Jinteki (Saisentan/Anansi/Boto/Tatu Bola).

You'll notice that either they have extremely nasty face checks (HB gets to accelerate the Corp and MIC/Jinteki decelerate the Runner or even just bloody kill) or are extremely difficult to break (the 6str Barriers and Drafter). Some of them are both! Poor NBN and Weyland just don't have ICE that does that. With Bellona gone, R+ tag ICE lacks a proper win con, and... Well Stavka and Archer are the only face checks anyone cares about in Weyland, and both are fine if you play green.

Tempo positive ICE has fundamentally warped how I view ICE. Spending money on ICE that doesn't advance a Corp gameplan or act as a win condition requires a very good reason right now.

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Alex Hong's avatar

Happy tree friends haha wow

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